tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post4987376670168670083..comments2023-09-16T13:22:55.052-04:00Comments on freefromeditors: Some posts from around MLive Media Group landJim of L-Townhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03941398804273985677noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-4887763201692082302012-05-07T22:10:25.591-04:002012-05-07T22:10:25.591-04:00I know this isn't exactly breaking news, but o...I know this isn't exactly breaking news, but ownership/management simply does not know what it wants to do. On one hand, they put out this garbage hard-copy product that is light on content and ridiculously overpriced. On the other, MLive is as clunky as ever, and the content there often appears to be geared toward the functionally illiterate. On one hand, they're constantly trying to herd their remaining eyeballs toward the online product. On the other, they continue to hire carny barkers to hawk the traditional rag at grocery stores all over the place. It truly would make for fantastic comedy were it not for all the careers that were destroyed by the circus clowns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-47827712835750808022012-05-07T00:24:55.516-04:002012-05-07T00:24:55.516-04:00I no longer read the paper. I feel no sense of loy...I no longer read the paper. I feel no sense of loyalty to the paper or two those who remains, because 1.) The paper felt no loyalty to me and 2.) I don't even know who many of the employees are anymore.<br /><br />I will never buy the paper again and I very rarely click on anything on MLive, so as not to give those bastards my precious page views.<br /><br />I have consistently heard a few things about The Flint Journal and MLive. Regarding The Flint Journal, people are upset that the sections are skimpy, filled with old news written by people who have little or no institutional knowledge of the Flint area. Regarding MLive, I keep hearing the same complaint that we've heard for years that the site is impossible to navigate and that important stories quickly get buried as management wants constant updates with posts of varying significance.<br /><br />Yet, the people who have been in charge during the decline of some once-great newspapers continue to get promotions while those who did the work in the trenches are cast aside after years of loyal service.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-45421027696270201822012-05-06T18:29:32.071-04:002012-05-06T18:29:32.071-04:00Don't count on the Booth pension fund. If you ...Don't count on the Booth pension fund. If you are several years or more from retirement, expect to see only a small percentage of what you have been led to believe you will draw. If your are a recent retiree, I'm sure your benefits will be reduced in the future. Just as the job pledge was pulled out from under employees, so too will the company pension plan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-9210658863825798052012-05-04T13:32:16.828-04:002012-05-04T13:32:16.828-04:00Some interesting comments about Booth/Newhouse pen...Some interesting comments about Booth/Newhouse pension funding on Saginaw News facebook page. Concern that the percentage of funding dropped below 80, which is the goal for funding. Suspect not a problem...a lot of people have been dipping in in last few years certainly.<br />Might be worth a thread.<br /><br />On another note...going from GR Press to Free Press...that's been going on since press cards in fedorasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-83086107716618298512012-05-03T09:29:54.794-04:002012-05-03T09:29:54.794-04:00For what it's worth: the blogger Grand Rapid l...For what it's worth: the blogger Grand Rapid lost is a pretty good guy. Did some good work.<br /><br />aa.com also recently lost one of their business writers to the Detroit Free Press.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-85095967267490094012012-05-02T23:36:28.069-04:002012-05-02T23:36:28.069-04:00I had a funny experience on the mlive web site the...I had a funny experience on the mlive web site the other day. My friend sent me a link to an mlive article about legislators' reactions to the teacher evaluation proposal that just came out. (The article was fine.) Over on the right, there was a box of "articles other people are reading."One of the articles said something like, "Traverse City expecting 12 inches of snow." What?! It's May 1! So of course I had to click on that link. That article? It had been written mid-January. If these web sites are supposed to be able to get you to look at other pages, it seems like it would behoove them to make those article lists relevant in some way!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10531344380743742801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-8880858116395920862012-05-01T18:34:29.389-04:002012-05-01T18:34:29.389-04:00I tried to post a long rant here relative to the f...I tried to post a long rant here relative to the fact that my paper didn't arrive today. Apparently the gods of cyber space ate my reply. Whatever....so I report my missing paper to the telephone machine and I wait. Is someone coming? Not coming? Should I go screw myself in the interim? Alas, the machine doesn't say Eventually, some kid in a four-door late-Model Buick arrives. He's sorry but it's a total charade. I offer up that I worked for a year on a delivery route -- nothing. I offer up that I understand the business model for newspapers has radically changed -- nothing. It's as iff the living-breathing moded of the automated-voice-response has just brought me my tardy paper.Cooley's Dictumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091573176460132541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-25097443593287312282012-05-01T18:23:34.031-04:002012-05-01T18:23:34.031-04:00Yeah, the paper version sucks and were it not for ...Yeah, the paper version sucks and were it not for loyalty on the part of this household, then one less check would be enroute to Kentucky each month to continue delivery four times per week.<br /><br />In fact, my Tuesday paper, today's paper, failed to hit my mailbox/driveway this very afternoon. And so I called the automatic response machine (there are no longer actual humans that one can speak to) and I waited. Waited, eventually, having punched the requisite buttons, I successfully reported the lack of newpaper. Now, I fully expected to see some poor dude of a low-bid delivery contractor (boo-yah, yeah Capitalism!) driving some automotive wreck, some poor bastard that's absorbing a loss to bring a paper whose delivery was overlooked. Inadvertently. No malice. Nonetheless, it'll cost him. Personally.<br /><br />Instead, I got some yuppie type, early-twentyish dude driving a four-door Buick sedan. He cared not for my rant. My history of having worked on a motor-route lo those many years ago. My disappointment with what has become the fourth Estate and in particular how that lack of a fourth Estate impacts the local arena. <br /><br />No. He was polite but obviously he cared not. Much akin to the national, state, and local political scene. "Oh, that's too bad but sorry -- we're out of time."Cooley's Dictumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06091573176460132541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-58053378979105907922012-05-01T16:38:21.941-04:002012-05-01T16:38:21.941-04:00You say in your own piece that everyone is being t...You say in your own piece that everyone is being told to think web only, but then you're surprised a few paragraphs later that everything in print was already online?<br /><br />They want people to move from the print product, as is evidenced by the giant ads in the paper telling people to get it free online. Yes, print brings in the revenue, but it also costs a lot. <br /><br />The web is the future, and at least mlive has a strategy. Other papers are just doing the same old thing and hoping this whole web thing is a fad. It's not. Anyone who doesn't have a strategy now won't be around to see the future of journalism. <br /><br />Our pub is working hard to get online going, and we've been very successful. There are a million advantages to it, and with people getting their news on everything from computers to iPads to smartphones, the immediacy of it is so beneficial. <br /><br />I thought mlive was a joke from reading this blog all the time stating that everything they do is wrong. However, after attending a recent conference where I spoke to actual employees within the company, from the front lines to management, it seems like it's working really well. <br /><br />Maybe your sources aren't so good anymore. <br /><br />One more thing, show me ANY company that has restructured completely that hasn't had a lot of turnover during the transition. Happens all the time, as people discover the new way doesn't work for them. Doesn't mean it's unsuccessful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-45231130055877557802012-05-01T13:49:13.984-04:002012-05-01T13:49:13.984-04:00I am a former employee who canceled her subscripti...I am a former employee who canceled her subscription. It was a difficult decision, but as you point out, the print product is not worth the price when I've already read it online for free.<br /><br />Indeed, a former colleague confirms what you said about 20 pages a night, and also says that the text for the print edition comes from RSS feeds. Nothing gets in print that hasn't come from the Web site.<br /><br />And what a mess those unedited online stories can be! Does not allow them any extra copy to work with, either, since the stories are posted at three paragraphs or so.<br />I do enjoy some of the stories I see online, but I don't know how they will make money with that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8086537183354417004.post-20255709731351646712012-05-01T12:57:57.853-04:002012-05-01T12:57:57.853-04:00I asked my former district manager to check the nu...I asked my former district manager to check the numbers on my two old home delivery routes before she left, and I found that since I quit the Flint Journal in June of 2011 my routes were down another 58 customers, so much for a bump with them adding an extra day of home delivery that same week eh? <br /><br />This would be roughly $11.60 less per day than what I was making when I gave it all up.<br /><br />Add that to the 230 I had already lost since the FJ went to a 3 day paper and you're looking at 288 customers less or $57.60 per day,or almost $12,000 in a year. <br /><br />Jeff TalleyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com